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		<title>By: Recette cake</title>
		<link>http://blog.jasondonenfeld.com/261#comment-1765</link>
		<dc:creator>Recette cake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thx for this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx for this article.</p>
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		<title>By: whois</title>
		<link>http://blog.jasondonenfeld.com/261#comment-1719</link>
		<dc:creator>whois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh my, will give this a try, thank&#039;s for sharing this article. cheers!=)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh my, will give this a try, thank&#8217;s for sharing this article. cheers!=)</p>
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		<title>By: Parier Rugby</title>
		<link>http://blog.jasondonenfeld.com/261#comment-1714</link>
		<dc:creator>Parier Rugby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 15:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merci, article fort interressant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merci, article fort interressant.</p>
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		<title>By: koi fish</title>
		<link>http://blog.jasondonenfeld.com/261#comment-1712</link>
		<dc:creator>koi fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 01:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the magnificent features about blogs is the facility to authorize all of us to share our thoughts on the World Wide Web. Sometimes it&#8217;s just awesome to blast away your thoughts and get it out of your mind. And you want to know what is brilliant about it? It doesn&#8217;t matter what the subject are! There will always be an interested person to read your ideas. Thoughts by <a href="http://www.koistop.com/koi.php" rel="nofollow">koi fish</a>. Thank you for sharing yours.</p>
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		<title>By: ladies online clothes</title>
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		<dc:creator>ladies online clothes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 20:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow!cool thanks for sharing! :) thank you very much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow!cool thanks for sharing! <img src='http://blog.jasondonenfeld.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  thank you very much!</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read your &lt;a href=&quot;//2010wsop.info”&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt; frequently and I just thought I’d say keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your <a href="//2010wsop.info”" rel="nofollow">blog</a> frequently and I just thought I’d say keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Dotan Cohen</title>
		<link>http://blog.jasondonenfeld.com/261#comment-1323</link>
		<dc:creator>Dotan Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also use a catchall email address in the same fashion that you mention. This Thunderbird extension makes it easy:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/594

There are two open Kmail bugs for making this possible in Kmail:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72926
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159251

You might want to vote for those bugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also use a catchall email address in the same fashion that you mention. This Thunderbird extension makes it easy:<br />
<a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/594" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/594</a></p>
<p>There are two open Kmail bugs for making this possible in Kmail:<br />
<a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72926" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72926</a><br />
<a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159251" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159251</a></p>
<p>You might want to vote for those bugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can do custom NDR mails, so if someone gets a 550 (no such user) when trying to mail you, your personalized NDR message says &quot;This address is no good, use this other one instead&quot;.  Make it look as little like a standard bounce as possible, and as much like a personal note as you can.

Anyone who&#039;s an actual person that really wants to mail you should get the message, and any spambots won&#039;t care one way or the other, so you&#039;re not really exposing yourself to more spam harvesting.

Since you&#039;ve had your current domain for a while, you probably get a respectable amount of spam daily to begin with, so I should think you already have a method of dealing with it.  As a side note, I&#039;d probably just leave the per-site addresses alone, especially if there are too many to remember.  It makes it super easy to filter for spam to those addresses (if recipient = nike@domain.com and sender does not contain nike.com, delete it), I really sort of wish I&#039;d been doing that myself all these years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can do custom NDR mails, so if someone gets a 550 (no such user) when trying to mail you, your personalized NDR message says &#8220;This address is no good, use this other one instead&#8221;.  Make it look as little like a standard bounce as possible, and as much like a personal note as you can.</p>
<p>Anyone who&#8217;s an actual person that really wants to mail you should get the message, and any spambots won&#8217;t care one way or the other, so you&#8217;re not really exposing yourself to more spam harvesting.</p>
<p>Since you&#8217;ve had your current domain for a while, you probably get a respectable amount of spam daily to begin with, so I should think you already have a method of dealing with it.  As a side note, I&#8217;d probably just leave the per-site addresses alone, especially if there are too many to remember.  It makes it super easy to filter for spam to those addresses (if recipient = <a href="mailto:nike@domain.com">nike@domain.com</a> and sender does not contain nike.com, delete it), I really sort of wish I&#8217;d been doing that myself all these years.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://blog.jasondonenfeld.com/261#comment-1143</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, fix your From: headers so that replies always go to the correct address.

Since you&#039;re forwarding all this stuff to Gmail, create a filter that catches all mail sent to yourdomain.com but NOT to your_real_address@yourdomain.com. Set that filter to apply a &quot;Catchall&quot; label. Apply that filter to all previous messasges as well. Then at the very least you can simplify your python script to only consider this one label.

In the future, every time a new mail gets the Catchall label, handle it as you please. Keep an eye on the label and eventually, the catchall emails should dwindle to nothing, at which point you can disable your catchall and delete the label and filter from Gmail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, fix your From: headers so that replies always go to the correct address.</p>
<p>Since you&#8217;re forwarding all this stuff to Gmail, create a filter that catches all mail sent to yourdomain.com but NOT to <a href="mailto:your_real_address@yourdomain.com">your_real_address@yourdomain.com</a>. Set that filter to apply a &#8220;Catchall&#8221; label. Apply that filter to all previous messasges as well. Then at the very least you can simplify your python script to only consider this one label.</p>
<p>In the future, every time a new mail gets the Catchall label, handle it as you please. Keep an eye on the label and eventually, the catchall emails should dwindle to nothing, at which point you can disable your catchall and delete the label and filter from Gmail.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Donenfeld</title>
		<link>http://blog.jasondonenfeld.com/261#comment-1142</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Donenfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot for your suggestions, Josh. Actually number 2 should be the easiest, because using the data from that python script I can more or less automate the process. It&#039;ll just be a matter of filtering out the non-human email recipients, which will take some work for sure. What I&#039;m most worried about is number number 3. I hate to have stale accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot for your suggestions, Josh. Actually number 2 should be the easiest, because using the data from that python script I can more or less automate the process. It&#8217;ll just be a matter of filtering out the non-human email recipients, which will take some work for sure. What I&#8217;m most worried about is number number 3. I hate to have stale accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh BA</title>
		<link>http://blog.jasondonenfeld.com/261#comment-1141</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh BA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what I would do:

1)From now on, only give the single address you want to keep to new people and sites. 

2)Send notifications to the actual people about the address change. (this is probably the most tedious part)

3)Change the e-mail address at the sites you care about getting more mail from or need the login for. &quot;Need&quot; meaning that signing up a new account if you find out you need to use the service would result is lesser service than keeping that account (something like slashdot or ebay which keeps track of reputation or which you build one like a forum). Otherwise, just create a new account when you find need to with your new address.

4)Set it so that your &quot;from&quot; e-mail address is always the new single one, even when replying to messages sent to a different address. This will make it easier to keep threads going as then no-one will need to manually fix the &quot;reply to&quot; field.

5)Every time you get a message to an address you want to get rid of (any other than your new consolidated one) from an actual person, remind the person to use the new address.

It means keeping the catch-all for a while longer, but eventually the only things being sent to your non consolidated address will be things you don&#039;t care about and the work will be, for the most part, spread out so you don&#039;t have to both do everything at once, and expect others to fix their behavior immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I would do:</p>
<p>1)From now on, only give the single address you want to keep to new people and sites. </p>
<p>2)Send notifications to the actual people about the address change. (this is probably the most tedious part)</p>
<p>3)Change the e-mail address at the sites you care about getting more mail from or need the login for. &#8220;Need&#8221; meaning that signing up a new account if you find out you need to use the service would result is lesser service than keeping that account (something like slashdot or ebay which keeps track of reputation or which you build one like a forum). Otherwise, just create a new account when you find need to with your new address.</p>
<p>4)Set it so that your &#8220;from&#8221; e-mail address is always the new single one, even when replying to messages sent to a different address. This will make it easier to keep threads going as then no-one will need to manually fix the &#8220;reply to&#8221; field.</p>
<p>5)Every time you get a message to an address you want to get rid of (any other than your new consolidated one) from an actual person, remind the person to use the new address.</p>
<p>It means keeping the catch-all for a while longer, but eventually the only things being sent to your non consolidated address will be things you don&#8217;t care about and the work will be, for the most part, spread out so you don&#8217;t have to both do everything at once, and expect others to fix their behavior immediately.</p>
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